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Lights... To spend alot or a little
#1
Ok, my Blackburn have given up the ghost. So, do I spend the money and get something like a Hope 2

OR
Some of these:
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Or these:
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I normally buy duracell batteries from poundland but I would try some Tesco batteries as I can get them cheap and compare. Overall I think I would have to do alot of riding to work up the same cost as a Hope 2 so I'm wondering which is the better option.
I've got the money either way, but after being ripped off of close to £500 (altogether) lately I'm somewhat reluctant to spend anything vast
My riding is more up and down than the damn area I live in! And the tart's knickers who lives next door - Combined!  :o
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#2
I have both of those tesco torches, I believe the latest version isnt up to much. I bought them when they were using the Cree lcd. Ive tried riding at night with 3 of them and they arent great. Very little more than a good narrow beam. Perfect for a helmet light as you saw last wednesday.

I am going to get a Magicshine to run wit.h my Hope 2. Magicshine isnt easy to get in the UK and only really ships from the far east. However my brother in law in the US can get them local to him for $90 (about £60) and my parents will bring it back with them in about a month.

Check out the threads here...
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The early posts refer to models from the far east which had some issues. The more recent posters got theirs from Geoman in the US and that model is far more reliable.

It looks amazing and the reviews are great.

If you want one I can get one for you.

That said, the Hope 2 is great and you get peace of mind with Hope too.

For Wednesaday you can borrow my Tesco torches if you like. It is easy to mount one on the helmet using a bit of inner tube. For the bars you may need to borrow some mounts. As I say, the arent brilliant but as far as I can tell yo can see in the dark anyway!!
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#3
You're a long-term rider Jon - soon to be entering more enduros and attending perhaps even more night (or morning!) rides when dark.

A Hope 2 is a lot of money upfront £148 but you get a vast amount of light, a durable, LONG RUNNING battery, and the Hope peace of mind.

There is no further on-going cost with a Hope 2 - only charging/electric costs.

Given my chance again, I wish I bought a Hope 2 long time ago, as Ive probably paid way more than that in batteries, faffing around, fettling etc when using the Fenix's or other lights.

If you can afford it, go for the purpose built, reliable and long term option - it will last you YEARS in terms of service, so essentially cheaper in the long run.
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#4
machine mart are doing these


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this one is 700 lumens for less than £90

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#5
&quot;leadbasher&quot; Wrote:machine mart are doing these


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this one is 700 lumens for less than £90

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The p7 in the £90 one is the same as in mine and Legless's lights.
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#6
&quot;leadbasher&quot; Wrote:machine mart are doing these


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this one is 700 lumens for less than £90

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Arent the lumen ratings naff on those though ? The emittor CAN emit 700 lumens but quite a few are lost in the reflector and wattages the battery supplies or something or other  :Smile Big Grin

IMHO : Jon get the hopes ... you wont be disappointed, you dont have to faff around with batteries and seperate mounts .... and having the option of easily swapping the battery makes it all worth it i would imagine in enduros ! no having to get the battery in the right way in the dark

The hopes are great quality and im chuffed to bits with mine as are pretty much everyone who has bought them !
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#7
&quot;TooYoungToKnow&quot; Wrote:The Hopes are great quality and im chuffed to bits with mine as are pretty much everyone who has bought them !

Indeed! Im stunned by how good the Hope 2 is. So well made and so bright.

But, if money is an issue the Magicshine looks to be steal at £60 or so. Its a bike specific light, has a great beam spread, comes with a bar mount and has a run time of over 3 hours on full blast.

This site gives some good beam shots for it and a load of other lights. Ive ordered mine.

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#8
That moonshine certainly does look pretty awesome but as has been said, for that little bit more I get peace of mind. I may well go Hope but will have to wait and see what UkBikeStore say about my x8's first, as that's who I brought them from. If they'll take them back then it's all good, and even if Blackburn send me replacements  that's all good as I'll sell them along with my Fenix and voila, have almost all of the cost of a hope 2
My riding is more up and down than the damn area I live in! And the tart's knickers who lives next door - Combined!  :o
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#9
I believe Blackburn have a lift time warrantee on lots of the products. The computers certainly do
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#10
From Blackburn:
Scope and Duration of the Warranty: For pumps, racks, bottle cages, cyclometers, multi-tools, mirrors, lights and trainers, this warranty program lasts for the lifetime of the original owner. This warranty program covers all parts of the above products and applies to all types of defects or failure, except for loss.

What is not Covered: Blackburn System X Lights are covered by a LIMITED LIFETIME WARRANTY. This covers the lamp heads and cables only. It does not cover the System X dimmer, charger, battery or battery internals.

Typical, but luckily it's the cable that's the problem!
My riding is more up and down than the damn area I live in! And the tart's knickers who lives next door - Combined!  :o
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