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Magicshine P7 (MJ-808) Light
#31
Looks considerably brighter with better beam spread than a Hope 2 in Blackers photos?
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#32
Nigel has been trail testing mine so he could tell us more.

But the impression I get is the Magicshine is the light for people on a budget. The Hope 2 is still a very worthwhile purchase as its clearly a better quality product from a better manufacturer (and supplier!).

And anybody on a budget should bute the UK sellers hand off at £80.
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#33
Magishine is a spot where as the hope gives a spread... both good... the magishine is a good mate to my Hope 4
Mei securis turpe meus vox<br />            
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#34
Can someone please confirm who is right before I think of spending any money, Nigel says the magicshine has more of a spot whereas Blackers says

"Magicshine has a more powerful beam than the Hope 2, although not as much as is claimed. I would estimate it is around 10% more powerful but is seems to have a better flood."

:'(
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#35
As I never took the light out my house, and Nigel has used it in anger, I would suggest he speaks the truth. That said, my living room shots do suggest it has a good spread but with a noticeable spot.

Nigel - would one magicshine on the bars be useable to a rider of average ability?
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#36
Ok I wont buy one then, I need a flood much wider than the flood lens on my current light plus twice as bright then also a 3 times as bright helmet light with a tigher spot than the spot lens on current one
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#37
Myself and Zombiejack had a lights shootout at the top of warren Rd.

He has the Magicshine - I have the Hope 2.

The Magicshine is not quite as powerful as the Hope 2 - as I could light the fence quite well on the other side of the field, Zombiejack could also (just)

As Nigel says, Magicshine is more of a spot, this was proved as there where luckily two trees near us, the Hope caught them a little, whereas the Magicshine didnt.

For normal pointing the way ahead - they are BOTH very good.

The Hope does win in terms of throw and spread.

However, as say 30 meters - they are almost indentical in the immediate narrow field of vision.

Given the price difference between the two, they kind of balance/cancel each other out as the Magicshine is great VFM.

It doesnt matter though, as you wont like either.

If you are rider with £160 in your pocket for lights, then you cant go wrong with 2x Magicshines  - one for bars, one for helmet.

However, my fears over warranty, reliability, support may remain the same - but sounds like someones taken that challenge on to offer it.

Dont forget the Magicshine is/was simply a "Deal Extreme" light, of which no-one should bank on being 100%.  But looks like theyve uncovered a gem here.

My comments/views still stand:

After 2 years of regular use, which light(s) will still remain in good working order with no issues? - Lets hope both. If the Magicshine does last that long, then it truly will be a bargain.

The magicshine is a contender to Hope2's crown, but the Hope warranty/service and history is second to none, and worth the extra money some say.
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#38
&quot;Breezer&quot; Wrote:Ok I wont buy one then, I need a flood much wider than the flood lens on my current light plus twice as bright then also a 3 times as bright helmet light with a tigher spot than the spot lens on current one

FFS - just ride when the suns up Wink
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#39
Sod it, I'll just ride on the road at weekends in july & august & be done with it Big Grin
Might even get rid of the trek & buy a hybrid Wink
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#40
&quot;Breezer&quot; Wrote:Ok I wont buy one then, I need a flood much wider than the flood lens on my current light plus twice as bright then also a 3 times as bright helmet light with a tigher spot than the spot lens on current one

Tell you what....   lets meet up and you can try them....   easy
Mei securis turpe meus vox<br />            
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