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#1
Ok so this is a cheap frame, and I really like the look of it!

I would have everything I would need to completly build this bike if I brought this lot:
Frame 18"
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£114.61
Frame Spec:
Brand: LAPIERRE Model: Tecnic Year: 2008 Color: White Material: 7005 T6,double butted Specification: 16/18 inchs Weight: 1700g Warranty period: 1 year,seller offer Description:
Made by 7005 alloy double butted tube,machining by hydroform tech,makes light and strong
BB size:68mm,english thread
Seatpost:27.2mm
Front derailleur:31.8mm
Disc brake only

Bars, 31.8 x 630mm
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£23.65

Stem 31.8 x ????
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£20.62

Horns
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£16.95

Forks - RS Tora 85-130mm IS mount
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£180

SeatClamp - Size???
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£12.70

Postage Total: £33.35
Total price without forks: £188.53
Total price with forks from CRC: £368.53

Oh and all the parts would be in red, with the white frame and a black chainset & pedals.

Now my questions are:
The seatpost is: 27.2mm so what size clamp would I need as I assume the actual seatpost would need to be 27.2, not the clamp

The Stem, I have no idea what my current one is on the HR, but due to the frame feeling too small alot of the time I figure the stem is too short... So what size would I need? 90/100/110?

BB size.. My current chainset already has a 68x113 BB in, so it should fit in this frame... Would I need to measure the frame when/if I buy it in order to find out what the width is, as potentially the 113 I have could be too short for my crankset to attach too?
But assuming it isn't, it should work with my current BB?

And any other suggestions on Forks? I want something around £200, a good make and at least 100mm travel but would prefer 120+
My riding is more up and down than the damn area I live in! And the tart's knickers who lives next door - Combined!  :o
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#2
I can answer a few questions ...

Seat clamp will depend on frame ... im sure blackers could fill us in my  on-one has a 27.2 seatpost and needs a 29.8 clamp ... im sure yours is different

Have a look at merlin for forks ! I do believe the frame is only meant for 100mm so your options may be limited !

Merlin also have the raceface XC set of stem bars and seat post on sale atm ... i plan on getting a set !
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#3
Or, on wiggle I have the choice of these:
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<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.wiggle.co.uk/p/cycle/7/RockShox_Tora_318_Solo_Air_Fork_OE_2009/5360045725/#more">http://www.wiggle.co.uk/p/cycle/7/RockS ... 5725/#more</a><!-- m -->
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The last ones are £115 and I'm not fussed about whether they are black or white.
However for the extra money is it worth getting the solo air's (2nd link)?
Is the weight saving really worth it? I'm assuming the black ones are coil?
My riding is more up and down than the damn area I live in! And the tart's knickers who lives next door - Combined!  :o
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#4
&quot;TooYoungToKnow&quot; Wrote:I can answer a few questions ...

Seat clamp will depend on frame ... im sure blackers could fill us in my  on-one has a 27.2 seatpost and needs a 29.8 clamp ... im sure yours is different

Have a look at merlin for forks ! I do believe the frame is only meant for 100mm so your options may be limited !

Well the whole idea is to get U-Turns. I would race the bike on 100mm but for a arse about session up BBH I would crank the travel up
My riding is more up and down than the damn area I live in! And the tart's knickers who lives next door - Combined!  :o
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#5
Save weight and money on the forks and get 100mm's surely ? <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.merlincycles.co.uk/marzocchi-and-rockshox-suspension-forks/rockshox-suspension-forks/rockshox-tora-s-l-2009.html">http://www.merlincycles.co.uk/marzocchi ... -2009.html</a><!-- m -->
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#6
If I was majorly concerned about the weight I would buy a carbon frame, but I'm not... But I don't plan on building a monster either...
For the extra money where forks are concerned I would rather have the option of travel adjust. For example on the ride to work I would like to crank the forks down as I do go up some nasty hills!
My riding is more up and down than the damn area I live in! And the tart's knickers who lives next door - Combined!  :o
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#7
&quot;Papa Smurf&quot; Wrote:If I was majorly concerned about the weight I would buy a carbon frame, but I'm not... But I don't plan on building a monster either...
For the extra money where forks are concerned I would rather have the option of travel adjust. For example on the ride to work I would like to crank the forks down as I do go up some nasty hills!

Surely having a lighter fork will make a difference ? Russ andy and mark got up whites with 160mm forks im sure you could get up a hill in kent with 100mm Tongue

Im guessing the seat clamp will be the same size as the front mech (ie 31.8mm) as the frame doesnt look to bulge out anywhere on the seat tube
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#8
I would go for the shorter travel, if you are building a racer then go light with shorter travel.

It comes down to what you want the bike for, if it's for all round use you want a fs bike ideally (as you know)

I'm looking at doing the same as you guys and blackers, going for a short travel "racer" so having a look around.

I've got the trance for proper offroad jaunts.
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#9
That Lapierre frame is what i have. The place i bought it from told me to not go for anything more than 100mm forks.
Im estimating my build will be just over 25lb, but thats with 1600g Rebas.
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#10
Am I missing something, that frames in America, $237 to get it here or £142 plus 99.9% certain you will get custom taxes of 25% odd on top of that, get it from where Blackers did

They dont make a 18" either, all Lapierres are in CM, I presume it a 46cm which is 18.11" which only has a top tube of 22.44"

Im not having a go but did you even read my posts on your other thread about how you really need to know what you want and look up the geometry figures. You want more length and yet are looking at a frame thats possibly too small seat tube wise (not all frames can take long posts, especially lightweight ones) and way too short top tube. (another notch on the people dont read what I say bed post)

If you are looking to spend under £150 get a 18" 456 like Steve, not mega light but can be built to sub 28 lb's and most importantly, have a decent top tube and yet with a 400mm post I still had 1.5" to spare on extension and it was roomy enough for 25 mile downs rides whilst being small enough to chuck around and im 6'3 with 34" inner leg. Get some 100-140 travel adjustable forks, U turn Revelations or something then you can run it steep for racing and longer for play time and I ran a 70mm 6deg stem, any longer is just wrong and fit for roadies only.
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