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On One 456
#21
"Longjon" Wrote:Steve T, have you considered a Cove Handjob, I bought one in the summer and swapped the bits over from my Pace, it rides like an
absolute dream, they cost a little more but it is a awsome piece of kit.

now now lets keep this forum clean eh Wink

on a serious note, ive never even heard of a cove handjob  Undecided will google it and see what i find
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#22
Steve - I have just been on the on one web site and i am amazed at the low cost of the 456...   i would say that if you are thinking of buying forks for you vulcan then wait as you can get the rock shox revelations for £230 when you buy them with your frame... this is a saving of about £50 over what the forks cost elsewhere, some shops are advertising at a low price but are out of stock..

So if you consider you have saved £50 on a truely awesome set of forks that are idea for th 456 that is almost 1/3 of the frame paid for...

You could look at cheaper foprks but again you would be compromised on performance and looking to upgrade again soon...

To be honest it looks to me like waiting and getting the frame and fork together for £401.27p is the way to go forward... in fact i'm stunned at the value..

If you are going to use it get the best you can at the time...   i know £400 may seem a million years away but it would be an excellent bike.
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#23
&quot;Mbnut&quot; Wrote:Steve - I have just been on the on one web site and i am amazed at the low cost of the 456...   i would say that if you are thinking of buying forks for you vulcan then wait as you can get the rock shox revelations for you buy them with your frame... this is a saving of about £50 over what the forks cost elsewhere, some shops are advertising at a low price but are out of stock..

So if you consider you have saved £50 on a truely awesome set of forks that are idea for th 456 that is almost 1/3 of the frame paid for...

You could look at cheaper foprks but again you would be compromised on performance and looking to upgrade again soon...

To be honest it looks to me like waiting and getting the frame and fork together for £401.27p is the way to go forward... in fact i'm stunned at the value..

If you are going to use it get the best you can at the time...   i know £400 may seem a million years away but it would be an excellent bike.

you make a good arguement, ive managed to just about breath life back into the xcm's by the use of a lot of lube spray stuff Big Grin not sure its doing the forks alot of good in the long run but it makes them move 8)

if im a good boy and dont spend much on train fares around to rides then i could be running a 456 with revo's in a few months ;D yes you have persuaded me Tongue
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#24
Steve.. Am I missing something here or are you on about buying another Hardtail? Why?!

Ok you may not have the best bike in the world, but it's not bad.. And let's think about this logically.. You really want/wanted a full suss, and you already have a hardtail... Need I say more?
My riding is more up and down than the damn area I live in! And the tart's knickers who lives next door - Combined!  :o
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#25
&quot;Papa Smurf&quot; Wrote:Steve.. Am I missing something here or are you on about buying another Hardtail? Why?!

Ok you may not have the best bike in the world, but it's not bad.. And let's think about this logically.. You really want/wanted a full suss, and you already have a hardtail... Need I say more?

i must admit i would like a full sus but even a entry level one sets back £600 which gives you a suntour fork and non-lockout shock, i must admit that i had those notions when i hadnt realized the suntour had developed its own 'lock out' and after riding with the fork moving (although it was only a small amount) it made the ride much smoother

so at the end of the day i would rather spend £400 on a decent frame and what seems to be a brill fork for XC then spend £600 on a full sus and be lumbered with around the same specs as i have now

im going to say sorry to ade/nick/russ/andy for turning this thread into more of a debate  Undecided before they start editing my posts and making me look a fool Wink
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#26
So, your on about spending 400 quid, on another hardtail...

Maybe it's just me but it makes more sense to pay the extra 200, and get a full suss.. Then you can upgrade as you see fit.. And in the long run.. You'd have 1 of each bike... That's my opinion anyway.

(Just seems rather stupid buying another hardtail.. Yeah it may have better forks, but your back end is still gonna suffer heavily)
My riding is more up and down than the damn area I live in! And the tart's knickers who lives next door - Combined!  :o
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#27
Steve is quite new to all this off-road stuff so maybe it'd be better to learn some more skills on a hardtail.  I can see both arguments, but do you really need a full suss bike?  I don't think so.  It's nice on a long ride or for more sketchy trails but by no means essential.  Andy doesn't spend all ride complaining he can't keep up because he's on a hardtail.  He just rides, enjoys it and more than keeps up!

Yeah i often ride a full suss and i'm fortunate enough to have a nice example of FS and HT.  I guess it depends on budget as to what is within reach.  I'd say keep saving and keep an open mind.
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#28
&quot;Papa Smurf&quot; Wrote:So, your on about spending 400 quid, on another hardtail...

Maybe it's just me but it makes more sense to pay the extra 200, and get a full suss.. Then you can upgrade as you see fit.. And in the long run.. You'd have 1 of each bike... That's my opinion anyway.

(Just seems rather stupid buying another hardtail.. Yeah it may have better forks, but your back end is still gonna suffer heavily)

i see where you are coming from

i suppose i have just got to stock pile the cash, then weigh up the pro's and con's of each, create a thread on here about it then throw the cash in either direction Tongue
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#29
Nick is 100% right. It would be much more beneficial to Steve's riding to go with a decent HT than wallow around on a cheapo full suss which he won't be happy with, as the spek would be shite. I was going to get a cheap FS nearly a year ago, but i now know that would have been an absolutely stupid thing to do because i was still riding like a granny on singletrack, and there is no way i would have progressed as quickly as i have if i got a piece of shite FS then. For the sort of riding he is doing now he doesn't need a FS, the only reason i want one now is because we now regularly ride places like Swinley, Surry hills and Afan where i sometimes feel that i am approaching the limit of what the bike is designed for, and just for a little more comfort on longer rides. I will keep the 456 pretty much as is apart from swapping the wheels over, and will still mostly ride that round places like Blean.
That 456 frame + Revs is an absolute bargain, and considering how desperately you need new forks i think you'd be nuts going for anything else.
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#30
am i right in thinkingthese are the forks that are specced in the added parts?
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