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Garmin help with navigation
#11
"alkali" Wrote:slightly OT but is there a similar route tracker thingy for HTC phones? I currently use mytracks which will log my route, speed, various stuff, but I'd like it to guide me along that route when I next ride it. Does anyone know of anything aside from the 'waymarks' technique?

I asked this a while ago and came to the conclusion that with the inaccuracy of GPS in phones and the dependence on a decent 3G signal it is a waste of time and energy. Viewranger and Mytracks seem to be the only ones of note but you have to pay for VR maps and I've never figured out how to do it with Mytracks.
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#12
"2002" Wrote:I have always used Map my ride to plot routes on but it seems to have been updates and I have found no way of now down loading a tcx file any more so I can get into the garmin training centre web site to get it inot my edge305 . Some else has found the same does any one know a way round this or is there another mapping site as I am away in the isle of wright soon and wanted to plan some routes to do. Keith.

Bikeroutetoaster can convert gpx to tcx if that's any help?
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#13
"pittgoat" Wrote:Any track has a limit of 100 waypoints, but that should cover a fair distance.  Once you reach your 100 waypoints all you need to do is start a new track.  Some software (bikeroutetoaster included) will set a warning bleep by using another trackpoint x metres from the turn so in effect you are limited to 50 per track.  Some packages do it a different way though

Nick - I'm under the impression tracks can have unlimited points as they use little info - I could be wrong though.
The method I use employs a course not a track & the warning bleep happens automatically in the course navigation.  It does not therefore reduce the 100 waypoint limit.
TBH I often find it quite tricky to limit myself to 100 waypoints.  Alot of my routes would use more if I could.

My 305 will not accept many more than 100 waypoints, it doesn't have the memory.  I can download numerous courses all of more than 100 waypoints, but they'll be automatically truncated & all the waypoint data lost - they therefore become useless Sad
If you want multiple courses of 100 waypoints each then you need the ability to download to the 305 everyday.
I used my method on Sunday for the 75m PH Sportive & it proved spot on.  It took me about 45 mins to program & used exactly 100 waypoints.

Keith - You don't need a TCX file.  My method works on gpx files that are pretty much available from all software.  If you use GPS Babel it will send the GPX straight to your connected Garmin device for you - easy peasy ;D
When are you off?  I'll do a BBH course for you to test out one Weds soon - promise.

Nick - If i can get a Blean GPX file I'll build a course from it & you can try that too Wink
Both the Blean & BBH demo's will/should be familiar routes to show the method works & give you guys the confidence I have in it.
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#14
Thanks for the reply and my youngest brother has been here tonight and we got a route into the Garmin using GPS Babel ok but it seems to only let you have one route in the Garmin at a time where as I used to have a load of routes in it at one time . Could this be due to me using a Mac or is there a button we are missing. I am away in the isle of Wright in about 3 weeks time
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#15
Space! Read the bit in my previous post directed at Nick Wink
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#16
Rmaps... see the Android thread, I commented in there earlier today.
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#17
Looking on Google I seem to have found what looks like a new programe called TCX Converter which seems to do every thing I need and seems to work very well. I now have 5 routes on my 305 and set one up last night to test it works on the ride to work this morning and every thing was fine. A lot of people are not happy with Map my ride site..
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#18
"Tinc" Wrote:Nick - I'm under the impression tracks can have unlimited points as they use little info - I could be wrong though.
The method I use employs a course not a track & the warning bleep happens automatically in the course navigation.  It does not therefore reduce the 100 waypoint limit.
TBH I often find it quite tricky to limit myself to 100 waypoints.  Alot of my routes would use more if I could.

I think this is the difference between trackpoints and waypoints.  As i understand it the number of trackpoints can run into the 10000s whereas the waypoints are unlimited.  I write tracks and follow them as a course (if that makes sense)

"Tinc" Wrote:My 305 will not accept many more than 100 waypoints, it doesn't have the memory.  I can download numerous courses all of more than 100 waypoints, but they'll be automatically truncated & all the waypoint data lost - they therefore become useless Sad
If you want multiple courses of 100 waypoints each then you need the ability to download to the 305 everyday.
I used my method on Sunday for the 75m PH Sportive & it proved spot on.  It took me about 45 mins to program & used exactly 100 waypoints.

Keith - You don't need a TCX file.  My method works on gpx files that are pretty much available from all software.  If you use GPS Babel it will send the GPX straight to your connected Garmin device for you - easy peasy ;D
When are you off?  I'll do a BBH course for you to test out one Weds soon - promise.

Nick - If i can get a Blean GPX file I'll build a course from it & you can try that too Wink
Both the Blean & BBH demo's will/should be familiar routes to show the method works & give you guys the confidence I have in it.

Sounds great - could you take a look at this Blean gpx?  I'll ride it on Saturday if its ready in time and see how i get on!

One last thing - i take it your method has been used for the 305?  The 705 does runa  bit differently so it'll be interesting to see if the method works on that too.  Here's hoping!


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#19
"2002" Wrote:Looking on Google I seem to have found what looks like a new programe called TCX Converter which seems to do every thing I need and seems to work very well. I now have 5 routes on my 305 and set one up last night to test it works on the ride to work this morning and every thing was fine. A lot of people are not happy with Map my ride site..

Maybe I misunderstood your requirements here :B
If you are using TCX files then you have TRACKS on your Garmin rather than ROUTES.  They are different as far as the unit is concerned.

If my undertanding is correct the difference is:

Tracks are recorded or created paths consisting of an virtually unlimited number of trackpoints joined together.  This provides a black line on the screen for you to follow.  The unit wil not tell you when you are off track or where the track is compared to your current position.

Routes are a created series of waypoints with coordinates saved for each waypoint & therefore limited to about 100.  Once loaded via the navigation option the Garmin constantly compares your current position to the next Waypoint & is therefore able to provide you with a direction to that waypoint via the compass screen.  As you approach each waypoint the unit beeps & displays the name of the approaching waypoint.
This is the feature you can use to get the unit to give you "directions."

If you are happy with the Tracks method then you are laughing for your holiday Wink
If my understanding is incorrect please let me know as I've not used the tracks method much.
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#20
"pittgoat" Wrote:I think this is the difference between trackpoints and waypoints.  As i understand it the number of trackpoints can run into the 10000s whereas the waypoints are unlimited.  I write tracks and follow them as a course (if that makes sense)

If you follow a track as a course I don't think you'd get directions on the 305.  Probably different on the 705 as it more betterer Wink

Quote:Sounds great - could you take a look at this Blean gpx?  I'll ride it on Saturday if its ready in time and see how i get on!

One last thing - i take it your method has been used for the 305?  The 705 does runa  bit differently so it'll be interesting to see if the method works on that too.  Here's hoping!

Correct!  I only have the lowly 305 & it's been great other than the waypoint limit.  I'll get the file done & we'll see what happens.  If nothing else I'll get a Blean route to follow eh? Big Grin
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